Posts by Captain Obvious

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my disassociation letter

by unstopableravens in

dear elders at%^** congregation, november 1, 2013. .

as you know ive been a member of your congregation for many years.

throughout the last several years i have had the opportunity to get to know many of you personally and i can truly say i have love for all of you.

Just a picture!!!

by sspo in

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friends

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Captain Obvious

Yeah, me too. Just a like a wedding... Based on pagan roots.

have a good night SFPW

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"The Watchtower's Achilles' Heel"

by Doug Mason in

if reasoning with a jehovahs witness on the watchtower societys interpretations of the kingdom of god, parousia, the cross, blood, and so on is unlikely to break the wtss mental stranglehold, what then is its achilles heel?.

http://www.jwstudies.com/the_watchtower_s_achilles__heel.pdf.

doug.

Captain Obvious

Doug,

I'm really interested to read this, but for some reason google chrome seems to think your site is shifty and won't let me on... What's going on?

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Is everyone required to be enrolled in the theocratic ministry school?

by hoser in

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friends

can a publisher "drop out" and still be in good standing?.

Captain Obvious

When I quit service and after my last shepherding visit, I haven't been assigned any more talks. I work shift work, so I'd usually just say I couldn't do that one, busy. Now, I haven't received a slip in over a year!

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Is everyone required to be enrolled in the theocratic ministry school?

by hoser in

jw
friends

can a publisher "drop out" and still be in good standing?.

Captain Obvious

When I quit service and after my last shepherding visit, I haven't been assigned any more talks. I work shift work, so I'd usually just say I couldn't do that one, busy. Now, I haven't received a slip in over a year!

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How I recently handled JWs at my door

by Christian guy in

the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

Captain Obvious

No, you actually are arrogant.

The believers on this forum are still believers despite having their faith tested and their reasoning questioned at every turn. It must be tiring, but in a way it is respectable. It'a good to be confident in what you believe and be able to field questions and remarks from people like us, who have facts and reason on our side. As far as the creation/creator argument goes, it has been discussed at length on this forum. Eventually the Christians get tired of trying to present false facts and flawed logic. They retreat to the unprovable, unknowable realm. Always the same.

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How I recently handled JWs at my door

by Christian guy in

the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

Captain Obvious

Cofty, Christian Guy is just afraid to have his "strong technical evidence" dissected piece by piece and systematically disproven. If he were to post it, regardless of how "technical" it is by nature it would be disproven. It has nothing to do with "wanting to believe." what he is saying is that "wanting to believe" means wanting to believe something that is provably false.

But... You already knew that. It's too bad, I was hoping we had a creationist who would actually reply to his own thread unlike some other threads of late......

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Why Eve sinned (WT 8/2013)

by EdenOne in

adamah brought up in another thread an issue i wasn't aware of, and i thought it merged well with something i've been pondering about.

it revolves around the deeper reasons why satan was successful in persuading eve to eat from the forbidden fruit.

why was eve persuaded to disobey god?.

Captain Obvious

So, Eden... When did humans get souls? Did gawd inject Adam and Eve with souls right after he made them?

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Probably the most bizarre encounter with a witness family.

by Dis-Member in

went to a bar with a friend a few days ago.. we were sitting in the outside garden and i went back inside to get another round.

on my way back out i passed some tables with a family of about 6 or 7 people sitting and celebrating a birthday.. i overheard the name jehovah mentioned and i stopped and asked if they were witnesses to which one of them replied 'yes'.. we got into conversation about the latest watchtowers and the governing body.

none of them had a clue what i was talking about.. they new nothing of the 8 men brooklyn being the faithful and discreet slave, nothing about c.t russell or rutherford, nothing of how jesus came and selected them as his chosen people in 1914-19, in fact the only thing they knew about 1914 was that that was when the first world war started, nothing about malawi and mexico, never heard of candace conti or any of the sex abuse scandals, nothing about the 2 witness rule, nothing about the elders being chosen by the holy spirit, nothing about 'new light', nothing about the orgs involvement with the un, nothing about the blood fractions changes they knew almost nothing at all about the majority of their own organisations core teachings.

Captain Obvious

The sad part is that while they seem to be very liberal and half of them will probably never get baptized... They all are likely damaged by the cult in one way or another. Rebelling against the restrictive rules is one thing, but a lifetime of studies, meetings and assemblies has likely left them all with baggage that they won't be able to figure out. They will have huge amounts of guilt later on in life.

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How I recently handled JWs at my door

by Christian guy in

the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

Captain Obvious

My mind was open to the idea of a god for a very long time. In fact, when I woke up and realized that JWs don't preach truth, I intentionally put off learning about natural history so I could learn more about the bible and Christianity.

Then inevitably my interests pointed toward real truth, not just truth in regard to the bible. A Christian has to assume the bible=truth, otherwise there is no point. I read many books, followed many threads, watched many debates. There is only one possible conclusion: the case for a deity in the sky is far too unconvincing to warrant committing myself to. And if god is real, and he is the Judeo-Christian God, then he does not deserve worship based on his book.

We humans are our only hope. This life is all we have. I was hoping your "evidence" would be able to start a new thread where we get to debate at length. All we usually get are some arrogant creationists who have nothing to say, and just promote some book or post some pseudoscientist clown on YouTube. You seem well versed in the scriptures and convinced enough to give it a good try. So far, facts and evidence always win.

In any case, welcome to the forum! We welcome all types here. Please feel free to share some more of those golden tricks for reasoning with JWs.